How Your Words Rewire Self Talk And Results

We explore how the words we speak and the stories we repeat quietly shape our perception, our identity, and the results we get. We share simple reframes like “yet”, plus real coaching and parenting examples that turn pressure and complaining into clarity and progress.

• the power of “yet” as a growth mindset lever 
• noticing inner dialogue and changing language without forcing fake positivity 
• reticular activating system, confirmation bias, and why you see what you expect 
• coaching athletes to challenge inherited stories that create pressure 
• future-based journaling as a way to write a better script 
• autosuggestion and “watchman at the gate” as subconscious training 
• progressive and constructive phrasing for parenting and relationships 
• “complaint or request” as a daily awareness practice 
• self-love as a repeatable internal habit that becomes spontaneous 

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Transcript

Poppy Banter And The Word Yet

Heidi 0:00

Welcome back to the show.

Ryan 0:01

Let's go. How are you doing today?

Heidi 0:02

I'm doing great. How about you?

Ryan 0:04

Great. What are we talking about? I got some poppy.

Heidi 0:08

It's not an ad. Not an ad. You're not being paid by Poppy.

Ryan 0:12

No.

Heidi 0:13

Yet.

Ryan 0:14

Not yet. That's a great word. That'd be a podcast. The power of yet.

Heidi 0:18

Oh, yeah. I love that.

Ryan 0:19

Power of the spoken word, the power of yet. Maybe we should talk about that today.

Heidi 0:24

Let's talk about it.

Ryan 0:25

Okay. Just changing the subject of what we were going to talk about right on the cuff. Real time. Where do you want to start? The power of the spoken word.

Heidi 0:40

You're reading a book about this right now, so this would be a great topic, actually.

Ryan 0:45

There's a handful of books out there that come to mind. Obviously, Michael Singer's Untethered Soul.

Heidi 0:51

Even the Four Agreements, obviously.

Ryan 0:52

The Four Agreements. Is his book that's even better than, in my opinion, The Four Agreements is uh the voice of knowledge.

Heidi 1:03

Yeah, I haven't read that one yet.

Ryan 1:05

So good. He he's just so good at articulating the inner dialogue, the inner experience of being human. You can just tell people authors like that, people like that, just inspire me so much to get to become more familiar with yourself. Um what is that? Is it Benjamin Franklin who had that? Uh Steel is hard, diamond is diamonds are harder, and even harder yet is to know thyself, or something like that. There's a quote. I think it's I think it was Benjamin Franklin. Anyway, um the other one that that I think is is just like yeah, is uh hung by the tongue. It's a very biblical-based book, which I know maybe you're for or not, but like even if you're not a biblically based person, then you can at least uh still find the theme or the principle behind the message of you know he uses different stories like David and Goliath and all these type of stories of of and all these different, I mean, just um scripture after scripture of talking about the power of your words, the power of language, the power of the spoken word. I've been really working a lot with my athletes recently, my clients, on the words and building awareness around their internal dialogue, building around us awareness around their language, the the words they're using, the words they're speaking. Um reminds me again of of um Bruce Lee's comment about how don't even don't even joke about yourself or say anything uh diminishing or negative about yourself. That words, the reason why they call it spelling is because you're casting a spell onto your life. Yeah.

Heidi 2:58

I'm not sure. Okay, I think you said that to the kids because they've been saying that.

Ryan 3:02

That's not verbatim. I'm sure it's so true though.

Heidi 3:07

I so many times throughout the day I still catch myself saying, talking about things that I don't want to happen.

unknown 3:13

Yeah.

Heidi 3:13

And and undesirable outcomes, and you know, I think we do that a lot as human beings. We worry about things out loud and we're bringing about those things by bringing more energy to them.

Ryan 3:28

The other one that I would say that's probably um the godfather of all these types of books is the master key system. The master key system is the book that uh the the podcast Mechanic to Millionaire went to the book.

Heidi 3:43

Dave Dave MacArthur, yeah.

Ryan 3:45

Dave MacArthur went through legitimate like line by line, and on their on his podcast, he would read a line or two or a passage and then he'd unpack it. Really, really good podcast. I don't know if it's even still up or available.

Heidi 3:59

It is because our son was listening to it. What? Yeah, he when he was working pressure washing outside, he was he said he was listening, and he goes, Mom, that's the one where they talk basically talk about the book the whole time, right? He's like, Yeah, that's what I was listening to.

Ryan 4:13

Good for him.

Heidi 4:14

Yeah.

Ryan 4:14

That's there's good things to have go in there.

Heidi 4:18

Yeah, even if you don't fully understand everything that they're talking about, you're still gonna get some some little tidbits.

Ryan 4:24

You know, we heard we hear this growing up, we hear things about how uh don't speak ill of yourself or to like you know to not not to speak positively or whatever. Uh but

Words Shape Perception And Reality

Ryan 4:40

we don't stop to really, really understand how our words shape our reality and how our words, our thoughts, and I say words, I mean thoughts too, right? And it's not that you have to fight every thought, but like when you attach to, when you identify with a thought that I am this or I am not that, or whatever the language may be, and it's really hard to have these conversations without just diving into the or even the world is the world is this way too world, right?

Heidi 5:13

Yeah.

Ryan 5:14

Um how much power that has over your perception, right? Like how you are then wiring what you perceive to see, like what you're gonna expect to see, right? Yeah, how you're conditioning, and which is which points back to like the placebo effect. The placebo effect is the meaning you place on things, your past conditioning, and what you expect to see. So when you understand the placebo, then you start to understand, well, how can I be greater than my thoughts, greater than my emotions or body, and greater than my environment or time.

Heidi 5:47

Yeah. Like that's even just taking it back to like the really basic um you're filtering the information that is available to you.

SPEAKER_01 5:56

That's coming in.

Heidi 5:57

Yeah. Like we ha, you know, your brain has the reticular activating system and it acts like a big filter for all these billions of bits of information that are coming in all the time. Right now I'm looking at you, but there's a whole shelf of books behind you. So I have to choose what is important to pay attention to to you while you're talking, making eye contact here in the conversation, or to be reading the titles of those books. Right. So that's like bits of information that are coming in just right here in this scene. But we have tons of it happening all the time, and our brain has to decide what's important to pay attention to and what isn't. And so the narrative that we have about the world, about ourselves, about other people, about the way that things work, that's what's creating that filtration system that is deciding what's important for you to notice.

Ryan 6:47

So we're we're, you know, the these are become agreements of some sort. When we we we hear things, we see things, we take on things, somebody says something, and we just adopt it to be true.

Athletes Rewrite Pressure Into Freedom

Ryan 7:00

We just adopt it. We're just like, okay, uh dad told me, actually, I had an athlete just tell me this yesterday. My dad told me that these next four years are really going to uh dictate the rest of my life. And so he was put, it was a college athlete who was going into his sophomore season. Um, so it was his third year on campus. He redshirted as a freshman, played as a little bit as a redshirt freshman going into sophomore year, and had all of this pressure and expectations on himself and was kind of playing rigid, not experiencing as much fun or joy in it. And and as I was able to kind of ask some more powerful questions about you know just what was going on with his experience, and we were able to source a little bit of kind of release and freedom and going from a very gripped state to a released state. Um we we we we we were able to objectify that story that my dad told me though that this I'm like you know, and so we found all kinds of evidence to punch all kinds of holes in that story, and we're like, this it's not true because of this, this and and I'm sure that it wasn't ill, you know, there was no ill intent behind it, it was well intended. The dad was trying to motivate him to take it serious for sure, and it's great, yeah, but but it's incomplete. That story that his dad was telling was not the entire truth, yeah. And it and it was just a story.

Heidi 8:22

And you just have to, at the end of the day, you have to decide like, is this actually helping me to feel the way that I want to feel and take the actions that I need to take or not? And so in some cases, that might actually help someone and motivate them in in different ways.

Ryan 8:36

For a period of time.

Heidi 8:37

Yeah, for a period of time or a season. Um so we always have to be asking ourselves those questions about the stories that we're that we're accepting as truth and the things that we're coming up with in our own head and asking, like, is this actually serving who I'm wanting to become and what I'm wanting to accomplish here?

Ryan 8:57

Yeah, the words that we speak create so going back a moment, like one more quick story that I'm gonna I'll tie it in. The um another athlete that I worked with even just today, I had her do a journaling assignment where she was kind of exploring uh thoughts and emotions from a future-based perspective. Uh, we picked a date in the future, it was like next March, and then post season as a basketball player. Here's all these things, right? This is how it went, this is how I led, this is how I contributed, this is how I handled adversity, and we kind of were creating a future orientation a little bit. And uh our feedback was I felt like I was writing this my own story. I feel like I was being the storyteller of my own life. And I'm like, yeah, that's what we're always that's what we're always doing. We're always writing our own story with the language. Our thoughts, if at if we attach to them, if we identify with them, if we actually feed energy by either resisting them and or engaging with them, they become our imagination. Right? And imagination eventually becomes in hung by the tongue, talks about this, a stronghold in our life. Stronghold basically means an identity. We then take it on as a belief about ourselves and we believe it to be true. I am X, right? Uh I am either this person, a coach, uh, you know, a player or whatever, and then, or uh, I am not something, right? I'm not good enough, I'm not talented enough, I'm not whatever enough. And so all this language becomes, back to what you were saying, kind of like um activating this reticular activating system, looking for evidence to prove to confirm what the story that we're telling about ourselves to be true.

Heidi 10:46

I got the test back. Oh, see, I'm not smart. See, I'm not good at tests.

Ryan 10:50

Right. So then now those words become affirmed.

Heidi 10:53

Yeah.

Ryan 10:53

And it and it and it starts so

Autosuggestion And The Watchman Mindset

Ryan 10:55

subtle. This is what I what why I love the idea of what David Arthur used to talk about when he used to talk about being the watchman at the gate. I think the master key system must talk about that. I've read it a couple of times, but I don't remember that exact language. Uh no, now that I think about it, it's in there. Yeah, the watchman at the gate in that master key system talks about the the relationship between conscious and subconscious mind and auto-suggestion, being able to actually like say something enough times until it becomes uh received andor allowed by your subconscious mind because you believe it to be true. It's not just affirmation, it's like auto-suggestion is different than affirmation.

Heidi 11:30

It's a deep subconscious programming, yeah, reprogrammed.

Ryan 11:33

Which, which we do and we teach, and but um but that that's the idea of like, okay, you you say it once, no big deal. You say it twice, you begin to kind of okay. Then now it's like two things being held together. Then you say it three, four, five, six times, all of a sudden that becomes this pattern, this way of thinking, and a pattern becomes a habit, a habit becomes a personality, right? Personality becomes your personal reality. And that's what the hung by the tongue is talking about when he talks about thoughts go from thoughts to imagination to strongholds. Strongholds in my mind is just an identity or a personality that then now we are we are then now protecting to uphold, and we're looking for evidence to bel to confirm that to be true. That's called confirmation bias.

Heidi 12:18

Yep. I just noticed something I'm guilty of right now that I've been saying.

Ryan 12:23

Okay, let's go.

Heidi 12:24

That our son leaves his stuff everywhere.

Ryan 12:26

Yeah.

Heidi 12:27

Right. And so he's not great at keeping his stuff organized yet. Um, he's working to become more organized. He's getting better at it. Like there's so many different ways that I can rephrase that and start to look for the ways that he is doing it as a parent. We look at the things that we wish our kids would do differently, or the like, why are they not getting that yet? Um and we label them.

unknown 12:55

Yeah.

Ryan 12:56

Yeah. And we're then adding energy to that belief that we do not want.

Heidi 13:03

Yeah. And we're creating more frustration around it and more story and everything else when like and then they take on the belief I'm not organized or I'm not disciplined. And then they believe I'm just not good at I'm just not good at that.

Ryan 13:14

And then they believe I'm not good enough. Right. So then they go out in the world and have to then operate with that stronghold. You know, the the the neuroscience language that you are just talking about of the yet word and trying to create language that is progressive and constructive. Those are the two words that I love. Progressive and constructive. It doesn't mean that we're gonna say our son is organized. It means that we're saying he's learning to become more organized or pick up after himself or whatever, whatever the word, right?

Heidi 13:49

Yeah.

Ryan 13:50

Because he's insanely disciplined. I actually have to force him to sleep in and not work out with me because it's summer and he's 13 and I want him to sleep.

SPEAKER_04 13:59

Yeah.

Ryan 13:59

And I want him to have rest, and and we're staying up a little bit later because it's summer and it's nice out and these things, and but I my schedule doesn't change, so I'm still getting up at 4 30 in the morning and working out. And but I can operate on four and a half, five hours of sleep. And and I'm like, dude, you need nine, ten, right? So I have to tell them I actually have to tell them to not. So it's not it, it's just the it's the idea of what's called intentional biasy. Intentional biasy is where I'm actually I'm actually using the words that are progressive and constructive to help to shape my perception and therefore sh and to kind of suggest to my my subconscious mind that therefore the language I use and I speak out into the world will be unconsciously and spontaneously more in alignment with what I want to create andor see. That uh is very powerful, right? And if you just play with that just a little bit, like you really watch how much you use your words to to tear yourself down in any way, shape, or form.

Heidi 15:06

To affirm some kind of negative thought or frustration. Absolutely.

Ryan 15:11

It reminds me of one of the things that I do with teams, and I actually almost need to hop up right now and grab a pen because I need to write this down. So no, don't let me forget this. Okay.

Heidi 15:18

Um it's being recorded, so

Complaints, Requests, And Script Flips

Heidi 15:20

yeah.

Ryan 15:20

But um will I listen to this? Uh is that a complaint or a request? Remember when we were doing the Unbeatable Mind coaching certification?

SPEAKER_04 15:28

Yeah.

Ryan 15:29

And that was one of their weekly challenges, and you and I were in the certification together at the same time, and they said every single time that you notice yourself complaining and or your environment complaining with their permission, very important.

Heidi 15:46

Yeah, right. You don't want to start putting that on someone without agreeing.

Ryan 15:49

With their permission, ask them, was that a complaint or a request?

SPEAKER_04 15:55

Yeah.

Ryan 15:55

And we thought we were really positive people who didn't complain much. And we did that at this is years ago, right? Uh we did that uh challenge, yeah, and we agreed to not take it personally if either of us were to call each other out.

SPEAKER_04 16:13

Yeah.

Ryan 16:14

And we were dumbfounded by how many times we were able to say to each other, Hey, was that a complaint or a request? I'm just, I mean, anything and everything, whether it be the the weather or the kids or the mess in the house or the kitchen, whatever, right? Yep. And um, and so, you know, just take a just be curious. Be be take some inventory.

Heidi 16:37

Yeah, because even I'm seeing stuff just yesterday, uh our son lost something, and that's what made made me think of that is that he lost a toy that he had just uh gotten, and so we were looking everywhere, and it's like, see, there's there's like the evidence that that you're you you know the evidence is always there when you're looking for it. Um but it's I think I actually was the one who moved the thing too.

Ryan 17:03

So now that because I'm always the reason he lost it was because you were cleaning something up.

Heidi 17:08

I think possibly. I don't remember doing it, but it's ended up in the laundry basket.

Ryan 17:13

I doubt with every single cell of my body that our son put anything in a laundry basket.

Heidi 17:22

Anyways.

Ryan 17:23

Um you mean to take things elsewhere, not to go elsewhere. Heidi just because this is have this image. She just carries a laundry basket all over the house wherever she wants to go. She has to have a laundry basket.

Heidi 17:36

I'm on a like a cleaning rampage and might just have a laundry basket.

SPEAKER_00 17:41

Uh unleash the kraken.

Heidi 17:43

Yeah, that's that's my nickname.

SPEAKER_00 17:45

When she's cleaning, we call her the Kraken. Unleash, you will watch this.

Ryan 17:51

Anyway, we got off track.

Heidi 17:53

Anyways, yeah.

Ryan 17:53

So the power of yet is really, really important and the power of your spoken word. Like, it's not that we have to sit here and be completed and completely like rigid with every single thing. Just be aware that if if if you consistently speak something, you are bringing attention to it. And where your attention goes, energy flows, what you focus on increases. These aren't just little, you know, statements. They they're true. They are they're backed in in everything from you know energy awareness to to neuroscience to how perception and memory work.

Heidi 18:30

Yeah.

Ryan 18:31

All of it, right? And and if you really start to pay attention, you're gonna see that uh that it actually does even shape your reality. Going back when I'm and I've talked about this probably before in other podcasts, but going back to one of the most um kind of tangible uh examples of this was years ago when I first started to uh to work on what we call flipping the script. We call like noticing a story, notice in a narrative, something that we're saying about ourselves or the world, working to turn it into something neutral or progressive and constructive or positive. But it's not always easy just to go to positive.

SPEAKER_00 19:11

For sure.

Ryan 19:12

Um so one of them was it's really hard to find good employees. This is when, for me, it was really hard to find good employees. Well, I had zero employees at the time, and so I had gone through I think it was twenty-five.

Heidi 19:30

Someone who came here to do a service at our house just told me that same thing like a couple days ago.

Ryan 19:35

For you, like that's what you should say too.

Heidi 19:37

It's like hard to find people.

Ryan 19:38

Yeah, if you keep if you if you keep saying that, yeah. That is not since I began to reframe that, that the the right people show up at the right time. So it's not like, oh, it's I I didn't go from it's hard to find good employees to it's easy to find good employees. No, it's that when I'm ready, when the company's ready, when we're ready, the right people show up.

Heidi 20:01

Yeah.

Ryan 20:02

And since we have worked on that frame of reference and that perception and that we our retention, right? We now have multiple teams and five crews and whatever.

Heidi 20:14

I just had someone reach out to me right before this about it they wanted to work for us. And I was like, I think we're staffed right now, but I'm gonna pass your information along. So it's funny that you bring that up. Yeah.

Ryan 20:23

If we really wanted to push, we could expand again, but I don't think the timing's right. But the yeah, the but I have recognized that it is not true at all. We have a phenomenal team, we have incredible employees, and actually, whenever we really are ready, when it when the when the when the when the work is there, when the people are ready, when the leaders have emerged, boop, yeah, they show up. And that's my new belief and legitimate, that's what we experience. And I'm not it's not even an egoic thing. Like I tell this story because like I want you, whoever's listening, to take some inventory and to begin to experiment. Like I think we talked about experimenting and adventure and making life this experiment. Like, experiment with your words, like there's no better place to start experimenting with shaping your life and shaping your personality and shaping your personal reality than begin to speak different words. Like, what do you what does it cost? What does it cost to go from complaining and like oh the world's this and or it's really hard to do that?

Heidi 21:26

Well, it costs nothing to change it, but it costs you everything to keep it, to keep the negative stuff.

Ryan 21:31

That's my point.

Heidi 21:31

Yeah.

Ryan 21:32

That's my point. What's it cost? It costs you nothing to begin to speak a different tone.

Heidi 21:38

I had a client one time, her husband like could never do anything right. You know, he wasn't helpful, like all she was seeing was everything that he was doing wrong. And I'm like, I want you to write down, just get into a practice of just looking for things that he's doing to be helpful, things that are like that you appreciate about him. And she started doing this, and then she started treating. Him a little bit differently because she started affirming these positive things to him, so she started to kind of her perception started to change a little bit, and then she's treating him differently, and then he's responding to the way that she's treating him, and like the situation got a lot better.

Ryan 22:15

Is it chicken or egg?

Heidi 22:16

Yeah.

Ryan 22:17

Right. Like, you know, is it that you're you are speaking what you are perceiving, and is that becoming perpetuated because of your resistance and or confirmation of what you're actually perceiving? Did I say that properly? Did I say that right?

Heidi 22:38

Yeah, I mean, you're that's gonna come out in your energy. Yeah. And so then who wants to go above and beyond for someone who doesn't appreciate that?

Ryan 22:46

Well, going back for a moment to the intentional bias, if I want my kid to be confident, let's say, right? It's not to influence people, it's not to manipulate people, it's to is to speak life into people.

Heidi 22:56

Yeah, to bring out the best in everyone for what's best for everyone.

Self-Love Practice And Fast Mirrors

Heidi 22:59

Yeah.

Ryan 22:59

We were gonna do a podcast about this eventually. I have it on my notes to talk about leadership. And I believe my definite like everybody should define words for themselves. My definition of leadership is the pursuit of truth, right? So I want my kids to live what is true, not just what they have conditioned to believe by the world or by even by me. Like I want them to pursue their truth.

SPEAKER_00 23:19

Yeah.

Ryan 23:19

And the truth doesn't have stories or narratives about you're not this enough or that enough. There's none of those exists in truth, right? It's only principle-based, it's biblically based. It's just, it's, it's universal, uh, universal principally based. And so when you start to like, you know, speak that intentional biasy into your child, and you start to think of, well, he's learning to become more organized or whatever, more confident, let's say, right? Uh my children are healthy and confident, and whatever, you know, I the I use these type of things that I suggest to myself on a daily basis. The tone of your voice, the words you automatically and spontaneously select are going to be in alignment with what your intentional bias, the auto-suggestion is.

Heidi 24:10

Yeah. Now when you see the thing happening, the words that you're going to select in that moment are going to be different.

Ryan 24:16

What you're looking for is going to be different. Yep. When you change what you look for, you change what you see. What is that, Wayne Dyer?

Heidi 24:24

Wayne Dyer, um, well, one of my favorite quotes. Change the way you look at things and the things you look at change.

SPEAKER_00 24:30

That's right.

Heidi 24:31

So when we change our perception on something, when we change the lens from which we're looking through, what we're looking at literally changes. No, so change your words and the way that you're talking about things.

Ryan 24:45

Change your language. The power of yet, and you might just change you might. You will change your perception. You just caught yourself right now. I just caught myself. Yeah. You will change your perception, and you change your perception. You'll start to change your your personality and your reality. It's just it's just That's how it works. I don't have time to tell the whole story right now. But legitimately, I when I came home today, this morning I was working through something, and you could tell. And this I was driving home from Chini today, and I I had worked through it when I was standing in the kitchen and you asked me a question. I'm not gonna tell the whole story, but I had worked through it to completion legitimately seconds, and I had released it, reaffirmed it, like worked through it emotionally, internally, and did my own internal work on it, let it go, and and I had and I had uh kind of like uh gotten involved with the new language that I wanted to create in my world for myself, and it wasn't more than probably three seconds later. You asked me a question that affirmed that new belief, and I was like, wow, the refractory period is closing around here.

Heidi 26:07

It's getting short.

Ryan 26:09

And I don't, it's not like, hey, one person's more powerful than the next, it's just the I I believe it's in alignment with your belief of how powerful your thoughts and words are. So if you know that when you affirm a new belief about yourself or the world, and you know that when you shape your when you change your internal world, how that's changing your perception and and your external world begins to mirror it. In the beginning, that might take six months or even 18 months. There's things that I worked on that took me a very long time.

Heidi 26:41

Because there's just gonna be a lot of residual resistance to it.

Ryan 26:44

But I will tell you this the better, the more that you believe in the power of your words and the better you get at the internal stuff, the faster it shows up externally. Now, this morning was a was a record. Uh and and people might call that a coincidence. But I but but time's an illusion, and I and I have been I was working through it for here.

Heidi 27:05

Here's how you know that time here's how how much time do we have a couple seconds?

SPEAKER_01 27:08

A couple minutes. Okay.

Heidi 27:10

Here's how you know that that before the just to be on a tangent here. Here's how you know time is an illusion. Okay? What what is time in the rest of the universe?

SPEAKER_01 27:26

Nothing.

Heidi 27:27

Yeah. Like we've all disagreed to this.

SPEAKER_01 27:31

It's a it's a construct by our minds. That that's for another part.

Heidi 27:34

So I know, but it's just crazy, right? Like, yeah. So really, truly, you can place meaning on things to be whatever you want it to be. So why not place meaning that's positive and constructive and progressive and moving towards the what you want out of life and the person that you want to become.

Ryan 27:50

Be curious about what you want to see, man. What you the experience you want to have, the impact you want to make, the what you want to see, what how you want to experience life, how you want to experience your relationships, yourself, your internal world. I I have been working, this is very vulnerable, but I'm gonna say it in our our our our if you're watching this video, it's about to turn off, but we're gonna keep going. I have been working on self-love recently. Last I'd say six months. All right. So I have been telling myself that I love myself a lot recently. And it has gone from me intentionally saying it to myself when I'm taking a bath or whatever I'm doing, to now it happens spontaneously.

Heidi 28:33

Beautiful.

Ryan 28:35

Quite consistently, especially when something gets hard for a moment or whatever, uh, this little voice in my head says, I love you.

SPEAKER_00 28:45

I love you, man.

Ryan 28:46

You're doing great. I love you, man. And this was like, huh, it's so comforting. Right? And uh and it and it builds confidence, it builds presence, it builds peace, it builds all those things, right? So the words you speak about yourself like man start to become the watchman at the gate as uh as the uh master key system would say.

Heidi 29:12

Start to notice the things that you're doing while like at the end of the day you're doing brushing your teeth. They're like, hey, get job.

Ryan 29:19

Because you will be hung by the tongue, considered uh if you follow the the book, hung by the tongue. So that was fun to this the spontaneous. I hadn't, you know, you changed the topic on me last minute there.

Heidi 29:31

That was thanks for bringing the poppy because that was you know, we're not sponsored by Poppy yet. But that's how that's where it came to. That's where it started. Yeah.

Ryan 29:42

Awesome. And uh so wrap

Listener Feedback And Final Takeaways

Ryan 29:45

it up.

Heidi 29:45

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SPEAKER_00 30:05

Yeah, thank you for your time.